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01 October 2006

Irony

Earlier tonight 60 Minutes had a piece about the disturbing trend in which teenagers physically assault, and often kill, homeless people, for the thrill of it. Often these teens videotape the brutal beatings. Ed Bradley, the 60 Minutes correspondent who filed the report, seemed unable to fathom why teenagers would do such a thing.

What I find interesting is that we keep hearing stories about soldiers in Iraq who torture, rape and kill the citizens there. And now our government has sanctioned torture. And we wonder how our children can do such things.

Thanks for your moral leadership, Mr. President.

Comments on "Irony"

 

Blogger shelly said ... (10/01/2006 10:23:00 PM) : 

That is ironic. *shakes head*

 

Blogger Wasp Jerky said ... (10/01/2006 10:26:00 PM) : 

Indeed.

 

Blogger Marcguyver said ... (10/02/2006 09:28:00 PM) : 

Wasp....man, this is sooo low.

Really? I mean really? Are you truly blaming our Armed Service Members for murdering thugs' behavior? As a veteran, this is not only angering but truly a low-blow.

Can I then blame Hollywood and MTV for all of their 'moral guidance' in the rash of school shootings, gang rapes, and murdering drug addicts roaming our streets???

I suppose the next creep that gets caught killing the neighbor's dog or cat just for fun can just blame it on the local slaughter house or chicken farm that he works at right?

By the way, the next time someone does a random act of kindness....say like, handing out free food, repariing a local school building, restoring electricity or running water, I guess we can 'blame' the same Armed Forces people and their Commander in Chief because after all, we're only imitating what our troops are doing in Iraq and across the globe in about 60 other countries everytime a disaster strikes.

Oh and another 'By the way', don't get too focused on our "Troops" as being the culprit here; we all know the real 'blame' for these shootings is the gun manufacturers right???

In fact, we need to start suing the manufacturers of 'matches' and 'lighters' for the rash of wildfires we've been experiencing here in the Northwest.

 

Blogger Wasp Jerky said ... (10/03/2006 08:31:00 AM) : 

No, I don't think any of those things marcguyver. People are responsible for their own behaviour. I absolutely agree with you.

However, when soldiers dehumanize other people (and you have to admit, there have been a lot of soldiers in Iraq who have), and when the President makes it clear that it's okay to dehumanize people in certain circumstances for a greater good, then that sends a message to kids. It's like when a parent tells his or her child not to swear, drink or smoke, but then does those very things. When we as a society don't treat certain people as human beings, it tells kids that they don't have to either.

 

Blogger jasdye said ... (10/04/2006 07:01:00 PM) : 

yes.

something that honestly, we can see after the lewinsky scandal - and the media attention that flooded after that - that all of a sudden, everybody knows what a 'chicken head' is. (of course, i would also give weight to biggy smalls on that one, but i digress.)

i think that what k-wasp is saying makes a lot of sense and is biblically and historically accurate. leaders lead by example more than by word.

 

Blogger Marcguyver said ... (10/11/2006 03:49:00 AM) : 

Wasp for starters YOU are the one implying that it is the fault of the President and our Service Members remember:
"...we keep hearing stories about soldiers in Iraq who torture, rape and kill the citizens there. And now our government has sanctioned torture. And we wonder how our children can do such things. Thanks for your moral leadership, Mr. President."
You even thanked 'em for it.

Alot of soldiers have 'dehumanized' others??? Define ALOT. 5...15...100? Let's say 100. Let's say we suddenly validated 100 ACTUAL occurrences of outright murder from Service Members on the ground (This would never happen, but just for the sake of argument).

Out of the 120,000+ or so Service Members on the ground that makes roughly .0008% of the total.

Hell, probably at least 10% of the overall population of the city of New York or Chicago has raped or murdered someone! Maybe they're the ones actually responsible for "Setting The Example" eh???

Maybe the real truth is these thugs and punks are beating up and sometimes killing the homeless, because they see people get killed by their Fellow Street-Rat Americans every day and night right in their own backyard. They don't have to watch the news on Iraq to learn that.

And, "...When we as a society don't treat certain people as human beings, it tells kids that they don't have to either."
Yeah, but I guess aborting millions of people, eh um I mean 'fetuses', every year has nothing to do with 'de-valuing' human beings?

Our 'KIDS' have been sent 'messages' already for a long time. They haven't been 'acting out' these acts of aggression because they learned it from our Veterans and/or sitting President. Give me a break!

They learned this vile crap a long time ago from MTV, Hollywood, Glorified Gangster/Rappers, and a myriad of other media outlets promoting the supposed glamour of a 'gangster lifestyle'.

Like I said, blaming our troops is a low blow to say the least.

 

Blogger Wasp Jerky said ... (10/11/2006 08:55:00 AM) : 

Again, no one is saying that the things you mention don’t shape the way children act. Of course they do. But if you honestly think that seeing images of soldiers abusing prisoners doesn’t also have an impact, and if you honestly think that the President and Congress condoning torture doesn’t also have an impact, then you need to pull your head out of the sand.

 

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